Comments on: Over is Over http://paranormal.suvudu.com/2010/11/over-is-over.html Suvudu - Science Fiction and Fantasy Books, Movies, and Games Mon, 21 May 2012 11:37:07 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Jason M Waltz http://paranormal.suvudu.com/2010/11/over-is-over.html/comment-page-1#comment-21195 Jason M Waltz Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:00:13 +0000 http://suvudu.com/?p=9791#comment-21195 "...like Ouroboros with the munchies..." Great line Ari! Oh, and article too ;) “…like Ouroboros with the munchies…” Great line Ari!

Oh, and article too ;)

]]> By: Andrew Mayer http://paranormal.suvudu.com/2010/11/over-is-over.html/comment-page-1#comment-21055 Andrew Mayer Tue, 09 Nov 2010 18:32:15 +0000 http://suvudu.com/?p=9791#comment-21055 Great post. I especially like the point that's it's often the perspective, not the genre, that's worn out. It took 20 years for Steampunk to reach the point that people started claiming it's "over". Truth is, it still has yet to hit the mainstream in any appreciable way. It's easy to think your own taste is the same as popular perception, and that your awareness matches that of society at large, but it's rarely the case that someone focused on a genre truly has their finger on the zeitgeist of mainstream acceptance. Great post. I especially like the point that’s it’s often the perspective, not the genre, that’s worn out.

It took 20 years for Steampunk to reach the point that people started claiming it’s “over”. Truth is, it still has yet to hit the mainstream in any appreciable way.

It’s easy to think your own taste is the same as popular perception, and that your awareness matches that of society at large, but it’s rarely the case that someone focused on a genre truly has their finger on the zeitgeist of mainstream acceptance.

]]> By: Derek http://paranormal.suvudu.com/2010/11/over-is-over.html/comment-page-1#comment-20969 Derek Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:16:14 +0000 http://suvudu.com/?p=9791#comment-20969 I agree wholeheartedly. The problem doesn't lie in the subgenres themselves, but in, as you put it, "cycle of influence and mimicry." Maybe because it's passe means its time for a new angle to be brought to the table. It kills me to see people try and lump the entire vampire fiction genre as "romantic," and therefore want to write a 150+ year old genre off because of that. While many books these days lean in a romance direction, it's an attitude that completely overlooks Lindqvist's "Let The Right One In," Huston's Joe Pitt series, Farnsworth's "The President's Vampire," Cronin's "The Passage," del Toro and Hogan's "The Strain," Grahame-Smith's "Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter," Wellington's "13 Bullets," Merz's Lawson books... those are "current" books just off the top of my head - several of which were high profile at that. And yet, over and over again, we hear how vampires are "over" and how romance ruined the genre. I'm glad that you mentioned Kent and the Griffiths... I haven't read their books, but they look different than the style that critics want to lump all vampire fiction under I agree wholeheartedly. The problem doesn’t lie in the subgenres themselves, but in, as you put it, “cycle of influence and mimicry.” Maybe because it’s passe means its time for a new angle to be brought to the table.

It kills me to see people try and lump the entire vampire fiction genre as “romantic,” and therefore want to write a 150+ year old genre off because of that. While many books these days lean in a romance direction, it’s an attitude that completely overlooks Lindqvist’s “Let The Right One In,” Huston’s Joe Pitt series, Farnsworth’s “The President’s Vampire,” Cronin’s “The Passage,” del Toro and Hogan’s “The Strain,” Grahame-Smith’s “Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter,” Wellington’s “13 Bullets,” Merz’s Lawson books… those are “current” books just off the top of my head – several of which were high profile at that. And yet, over and over again, we hear how vampires are “over” and how romance ruined the genre. I’m glad that you mentioned Kent and the Griffiths… I haven’t read their books, but they look different than the style that critics want to lump all vampire fiction under

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